Space Battles – How Science Fiction Failed Us
June 2, 2010 - By Phineas Delgado
So for the past few weeks, we’ve delved into some of the deeper and more truly scientific concepts tackled by science fiction. Of course, since the main point of science fiction is to entertain an audience, and (let’s be honest) most people could give a Ewok’s hind end about the science, all too often the realistic is replaced with the fantastic. The end result can vary from the surreal to the sublime to the ridiculous, but often, regardless of the quality, far from the mark. This is probably the most true when it comes to the climax of most any science fiction epic: The Space Battle.
Now, most geeks already know the major problems with depictions of battles in space: the noise and explosions. Since space is a vacuum, and sound waves require substance to perpetuate them, the sounds would never be heard, even within your own cockpit or flight deck. The most you might hear is a bit of noise when you fired your weapons, but you would never hear enemy fire (we’ll address the issue of lasers in a moment). Imagine the Battle of Endor where the only sounds you heard in the space battle were the actors talking, the drone of the engines and the occasional hum of their lasers firing. No “pewpew” no Alderaan-shattering “KABOOOOOM!” Just silence. Boring to say the least.

Star Wars: Battle over Coruscant
As for the explosions, they would require oxygen, which again, is largely absent in said vacuum of space (not very nice places, those vacuums). You see, fire requires a specific balance of four things: fuel and oxygen to start, a heat source to raise the fuel/oxygen combo to its flash point, and enough of those three to produce a sustainable chain reaction to maintain the fire. Eliminate one of the four, and the fire goes out. Since space is a vacuum and the ships would largely be pressurized with breathable oxygen, there could be flashes when they were destroyed, but they would wink out very quickly… if they appeared at all. It’s far more likely that the oxygen would disperse so quickly that a chain reaction would never begin. Or that the heat would dissipate so fast in the frozen cold of space that fire would never start in the first place. What you would end up with little Tie Fighters (which, by the way, are not pressurized) just blowing into little pieces in a flash of light.
Now the larger vessels like, say, the Enterprise, or a Battlestar, contain copious amounts of oxygen and could foster internal explosions like the surface of earth could. Such explosions could be seen from another vessel, provided they ruptured the exterior hull. They wouldn’t last long, mind you, but they would probably be spectacular by comparison, especially if there was combustible fuel on board. Still though, no boom and certainly no massive fireball.
This is all basic physics, though. Physical science even. There are other aspects of battle in space that never sat quite right with me, too. Take space fighters, for instance. In all my years of watching Sci-Fi movies and television, only one show came remotely close to depicting how a small craft would have to move in the void (and even still there was more F-16 in their movements than space would allow for). That show was Babylon 5. Their fighters could be seen using thrusters to change their facing direction, and there was a lot of drift. They also limited their in-space explosions and often had exterior shots in space with no sound, so as to simulate the real effect of being in space. Comparing that to the Asteroid Belt chase in The Empire Strikes Back, a scene in which the rather large Millennium Falcon was seen spinning wildly, then straightening out instantly and turning on a dime. Unless there is some technology that is never explored, that type of movement just isn’t possible. You see, to get spinning, you would have to apply a lot of energy over a period of time. According to Newton’s Laws, in order to stop spinning, you would have to apply an equal amount of force and you spent getting up to that speed in total. SO if you applied 10 pounds of force per inch over 4 seconds, you would have to apply 160 pounds of opposing force to stop the movement cold. For a ship that size, the amount of energy involved would be tremendous and would likely break the ship in half for the effort.
At least Star Trek invented the fictional “inertial dampeners”, which do exactly what they say; they limit the effect Newton’s Laws of Motion have on the ship, making it possible to stop quickly, turn fast, and has the added bonus of keeping the crew from facing tremendous force when the ship performs these maneuvers. They also added a “structural integrity field” which acts as a sort of covering for the exterior of the ship, protecting the hull from the shearing forces of high stress movement and warp travel. I think Star Wars stole a Federation ship and just forgot to mention it…
The final aspect I’ll address today is the weaponry. I think we all know how fast light travels (pretty darn fast to cover 93 million miles in just over 7 minutes). So why is it that the weapons in Star Wars, Star Trek and other worlds have to lock on or track targets? Isn’t light traveling nearly instantly? Even if a target is 10km away (the maximum range for Star Trek), you’re pretty much going to hit right where you aim. Now the projectiles and missles, I get, but lasers are point and shoot. Babylon 5 again hit the nail pretty close to the head by depicting beam weapons that were sustained and used mainly for cutting enemies apart. This opposes the Star Wars model which uses a principal that involves excited gas particles to punch holes in targets, so it’s conceivable that there would have to be leading and aiming, and perhaps even a stream of excited material you could see (lasers would usually be invisible to the unaided eye). Star Trek does something similar; Phasers create particles called “nadions” that affect objects on the atomic level while Disrupters excite the molecular bonds of an object. The shielding of ships is actually designed specifically to disperse these types of radiation (there is no other word for it really); which is why when they encounter new weapons, they are usually powerless against them.
Here’s how a space battle would really go down. The weapons would most likely be either powerful lasers (that would hit a target instantly and be invisible… sounds like a perfect weapon to me), rail guns (which launch projectiles using magnetic fields instead of explosions, which are impossible in space) and to a lesser degree, missile weapons (it’s possible that they would be too slow to catch space targets, or that the launch would negatively affect the trajectory of the launching ship as to make it only viable on extremely large vessels). It would be slow (at least it would look slow) and it would be quiet. And if lasers really were involved, chances are, everyone involved would be dead before they knew what hit them. I know this doesn’t make for good TV or movies, and we need to have exciting, engaging space battles (let’s face it, everyone like a little pew pew now and then), but let’s take the path of Babylon 5 and some of the newer additions to the genre and make it as realistic as we can. Honestly, I think it’s more compelling that way. And for the record, Star Trek would win in a battle against Star Wars. So there.





I agree.
Best book SciFi book I read that covered this topic was “Starworld” by Harry Harrison (It was from the To the Stars Trilogy anyway)
at one point new bloke is aboard a space ship on its way to a fight in space. The main engineer of ship plays a video of a space fight to the guy (from description sounds like that start of star wars) and asks “what do you think” and the guy rants about explosions in space, ships turning on the spot, lasers, and explaining all the impossibilities shown in the clip.
he then goes on to design more realistic weapons. like tubes that fire ball bearings in front of ship, since without air to slow them down they would keep floating as wall of destruction in front of them. and other such weapons.
Damn normal SciFi and its unfulfillable promises.
I know right? Space Battles will be epic enough without making them in the Matrix. I still give B5 a gold star for effort.
Hooray for B5 being up at the top of the right stuff. That’s my all time favorite SciFi show, and I really did like the fighters and such.
Yeah, silent space battles on TV, hmmm. Well, Firefly comes close, but still, not so exciting.
Here’s a question for you, what do you think about the Picard Maneuver? I always liked that one.
As I mention in the article, that only works because of the IDS and SIF that Star Trek uses. Without those, a move like that would crush the ship and everyone on it.Just imagine accelerating to just past the speed of light and then stopping instantly. a car hitting a wall at 60 mph is enough to completely destroy it.. and the occupants, so imagine what would happen at light speed with something as massive as the Constellation (or even worse, the Enterprise D).
I read a website years ago that pitted the S.T and S.W. universes against one another with some real scientific calculations. In The Empire Strikes Back, we see Star Destroyers shooting asteroids and causing explosions. I don’t remember all the details, but that effect alone, physics computed surrounding the laws of thermodynamics, made the S.W. weapons more powerful than S.T.; based also on weapon effects we’ve seen in S.T.
Also, in space there is absolutely NO DRAG, no aerodynamics. With all the debris floating around from ships being torn apart, a collision with any debris, of any size, with your ship will alter your heading, or send you totally spinning out of control. Also, the use of ANY weapon that has recoil will do the same. Energy or magnetic based weapons are a MUST.
Great job!
“instead of explosions, which are impossible in space”….i miss your point here? You are not saying that, lets say 50kg of TNT wont detonate in space?
you are confusing explosions with fire; c4 does not explode if you light it on fire you can only make it explode with another explosion, oxygen is not required. an explosion is a rapid expansion of a substance fire is a chemical bonding by way of combustion.
i don’t know if it has another name for the combustion of other substances but oxygen is just a fuel that bonds with other atoms at a lower temperature then most others that give off that kind of a energy.the energy that is in those weapons others would burn.
so the simple formula for combustion is fuel and energy.
as for chemical explosion weapons like guns they have enough oxygen in the case to work in space and under water (don’t try it at home sometimes it will blow up under water)
shooting ions/plasma would not be a good idea it would have heat and the ionic charge pushing it apart it would just come out as a cloud but not one you want to fly into.
space is for the purpose of auditory purposes empty but for high speed it is not. it is like one hydrogen atom every m^3 so at 60 miles/hour a one m^2 front of a ship would hit about 268 atoms/sec at the speed of light its about 300,000,000/sec that is partly why the enterprise has the big dish on the front.
also the enterprise doesn’t go faster then the speed of light it maybe goes a quarter of that at any time.
You are right, an explosion, by definition, is the violent reaction created when an object’s potential energy is converted to kinectic energy over a very short period of time. Since the nergy has to go somewhere, it usually created rapid expansion and heat as a by product. The heat then ignites any combustible material which in turn converts MORE potential energy creating a cascading effect. This also creates the ball of flame, we normally associate with an explosion. That would not happen in space. AS I recall, I think I said the explosion would happen, but not the ball of flame.
As for the gunplay, while there is enough oxygen in the gunpowder to reliably ignite and fire, it would create a tremendous amount of reverse motion, making it difficult at best to fire a second time on the same trajectory, and in a ship, the amount of fuel it would consume just holding position to do so would not be effective, at least with the tehcnology we have today. Add to that how much slower checmically projected weapons would be compared to magnetic or beam weapons, it becomes clear that they would never be used.
Also, in space, chemical reactions often are much slower, if they happen at all, due to the lack of temperature. Space can be very very cold.
The dish on the enterprise isn’t for gathering sound waves. It’s called the navigational deflector and it’s the basis of the ships shields. When they move through space, the deflector pushes space debris out of the ship’s path. In combat, it acts as the base level of the ship’s defense. It has nothing at all to do with communications and never has. Ships in star trek communicate through subspace, not by radio.
Warp speed is many times the speed of light. IN the old scale, it was cubic. so warp 2 was 8 times the speed of light, warp 3 was 27 and so forth. In the new scale, it’s harder to calculate, but warp 8 ends up being about 1,000 times the speed of light. That makes a trip to Vulcan from Earth (about 16 light years) a 6 day trip.If they were only travelling 1/4 of light speed, a trip to Vulcan would take 64 years.